Kurt Kelly: Does He Have A Golden Opportunity?
There has been much controversy surrounding Kurt Kelly’s election to State Representative, especially the closing of the primary via a write-in candidate. Could it be that Mr. Kelly now has a great opportunity to improve his credibility and demonstrate his concern for ALL of his constituents?
Perhaps Mr. Kelly should give strong consideration, in one of his first acts as a freshman legislator in 2008, to introducing a bill to correct the law that allows the closing of a primary by a write-in candidate. What better way to demonstrate his leadership, influence and serving-the-people skills than to take on tough issues like this one from the get go as our legislator.
Mr. Kelly could win over a considerable number of voters (including many from his own Party) who felt, possibly unfairly, that he played a role in Ms. Stacy’s action to close the primary. Importantly, it would reinforce the integrity of what he has consistently told the media and voters about not being involved in the write-in decision, and being very supportive of an open primary.
Tell us what you think: Should Kurt Kelly make this bill a key part of his legislative agenda in 2008? Why or why not?
Also, vote in our Straw Poll on the subject:
http://www.insitefulsurveys.com/Survey.asp?SI=161384712687
posted by Blog Master @ 7:07 PM
156 Comments:
A good idea. After all, why should any politician fear a D, R or I voter. In the end, you must represent all. I can see primaries for pure and legitimate parties, but this write-in thing is not right. Having Mr. Kelly just introduce a bill is not the answer either. He must approach getting it passed with sincerity and commitment and not give it political lip service.
Don
(OTOW)
Ain't no way KK is going to do something like that. He'd have to cross Nancy Stacey and she would kill him! He owes her in a big way.
I'm OK on the law the way it is for the State level. I would make all local elected offices non partisan.
Dumb, dumb idea. Will only make the democrats lazier than they already are. Why find any democrat candidates to run they can elect RINOs like Crist all the time.
Getting it through might be difficult. There are parts of south Florida where the Democrats will fight this tooth and nail. They don't want those lazy Republicans electing DINOs.
Voice of Reason says......
I'd like to see a strong independent run in '08. Kelly will be campaigning (i.e. PAC fundraising from day one)- he won't be looking for any Democrat or Independent friends. He will expect the same individuals to contribute the same as last time so all he will focus on is getting more and more PAC/Association money. Ask Dick Handout how it works, he'll know.
By the way, can we get through one day without hearing about some sports/recreation imbecile having a baby? This country should have a big sign on its back that says, SUCKERS.
VoR
Gun Nutt says...
I agree with Voice of reason. Sports are used as a distraction in this grand slight of hand act. They put something flashy in front of you and when you aren't watching they make your money and your freedom disappear.
Voice of Reason says.......
Its really sad to see grown men spending time and money on sports and turning their backs on their country, the economy, their faith, their family and their self-worth. Madison Avenue advertising firms have convinced the average white male that they are only good for warming a seat in front of a TV with some sport/recreation show on. All restaurants now have a direct line (TV) from Madison Avenue into the mind of the average white male. It makes me sick to see some father at dinner with his family and the dad is glued to a game while his family is right in front of him. Its terrible to hear some father talking about some sports guy's salary around his son - what message does that send. How many commercials tell you that some sports stooge can do something important like put a ball in a basket and that you could never do something like that. The whole system is designed to break down the family and make the white male nothing more than a well-trained conduit of money from the employer to Big Sports. Big Sports then supports Madison Avenue and the cycle goes on and on.
Maybe Kelly can address this issue in Tallahassee - a good start would be to send the PACs packing and take only local money from salt-of-the-Earth folks. He's already messed-up on that but I'm willing to forgive and forget if he can dirt-dog the PACs.
VoR
V Of R,
Independent will only work if you keep the Democrats out and two have already filed to run.
By the way, back to the question, are you for or against Kelly trying to get a change in the write-in law?
See from another thread you're an old time wrestling fan . That stuff sucks!
Voice of Reason says.......
Not really for Kelly wasting time changing the law because I don't think that the law is a problem - the problem is voter apathy, no Democratic Party, and no Independent Party. Not that Kelly would touch that issue anyway. I really see the sports marketing as a big problem. You can't go anywhere without the sports obsession and that obsession takes an immense bite out of the male's consciousness. Its even the first topic after coming out of real Bible-believing churches even! "That was a great sermon about Jesus." "Yes it was." "Did you see that touchdown catch? Wasn;t that something?" "Yeah, amazing, let's go get some lunch and talk about it."
Beating voter apathy requires some critical mass of belief. Christian Conservatives always have that critical mass because they (we in my case) always believe that our vote - no matter what the outcome- always makes a difference because we are accountable to someone bigger than us. As bad as it is, the Republican Party is the only place that a Christian Conservative can hang his or her hat so the Republicans will always have the critical mass to overcome apathy in Marion County.
Madison Avenue can't make economic slaves of conservative Christians through the normal MTV/Cosmopolitan Magazine/Network TV route but it has found that sports are a great Trojan Horse because there's no nudity and little profanity. Madison Avenue has already enslaved the average Democrat and Independent but it keeps losing to guys like Baxley and Kelly and that drives them nuts.
VoR
I'm with you on sports, especially "professional" wrestling. What a waste, kids should not be allowed to watch it.
And I'm dissappointed at all the filthy books Kelly has let into our school libraries.
Before you get too high and mighty on Kelly/Baxley you might want to better examine their record on certain social issues a bit more in detail. I did and did't like what I saw. That's why I'm also looking for a strong local Independent candidate who I can trust.
Voice of Reason syas.....
Finishing up, Madison Avenue sees sports as a Trojan Horse into Christian conservative consciousness and they are having some success (after church example) but they have yet to overcome the Conserv. Christian critical mass in voting.
Sports marketing has destroyed the vast white male middle ground and has made deep inroads into the Christian male (especially in the South where, by the way that they are esteemed, you would think that football coaches can find a cure for multiple sclerosis).
On the other note, the key to enjoying the old Florida Championship Wrestling is not the wrestling action but Gordon Solie's commentary. I haven't watched wresting since Solie left the art.
Voice of Reason says........
I'm with you on the Baxley/Kelly idea, I don't think that they are that qualified or that they are much of statesmen. It's just that the average joe middle-ground guy is completely out of the voting game because 1. he is caught up in "more important things" like idolizing sports and 2. he doesn't have any belief that his vote means anything.
The middle ground folks must shift attention from marketed sports to civics. Like Gun Nutt said, the vast middle is shell-gamed by sports. The far Left is too fractioned for consensus and the Right at present has the critical mass to get out enough folks to win.
If you see some guy in a restaurant talking about one more sports topic, ask him how that has helped him or his family or is country.
VoR
Nancy Stacy has done more than the entire Dem exec committee to light a fire under the lazy Dem's. The head of the local Dem party should be sending Nancy a huge thank you. If they can't use what she did as a rallying call then they are indeed hopeless.
Nancy said it best “you first have to have a franchise in order to be “disenfranchised”
Or is it?
The Dems did not have the time or the money to run a candidate. So they had a strategy to use this opportunity to vote for the weakest Republican. Why? So they can knock that person off in 2008.
Nice try Dem's and good job Nancy. (Nancy won’t be getting that Dem thank you after all)
Should this write-in law be changed? heck no!
Should the law that opened up primary's be revisited by the voters? heck yes!
No party should have their primary hijacked by the other!
Republicans and Dems should have closed primaries and should select who they want to represent them in a general election.
Yes indeed in other parts of the state the D’s do the same thing that Nancy did to close out R's.
Easy fix,
Dems- run a candidate.
Independants- run a candidate
Reps- run a candidate
If not then sit on the platform and wave at the train as it pulls out of the station.
Or shall we just make all offices throughout the land be nonpartisan so No Voter will be left behind?
Does Kurt Kelly have a golden opportunity? Well, Kurt Kelly HAD a golden opportunity.
In 1998, Florida voters, including Marion County voters, overwhelmingly approved a constitutional amendment designed to increase voter participation. It was designed to let all voters participate in a primary if the winner of the primary was going to take office with the primary having the effect of a general election. It also made school board elections nonpartisan.
This is what we had on June 5. We had a primary in which the officeholder was selected. However, one of Kelly’s ardent supporters, Nancy Stacy, doesn’t like the open primaries that 2.2 million Floridians voted for so she drove to Tallahassee to pose as an office seeker for a few minutes by signing three documents – an appointment of a treasurer to watch over the $6.72 she would eventually raise, an oath, and a financial disclosure. The effect of what Stacy did was to prevent me and more than 54,000 other voters in District 24 from being eligible to participate in selecting our state representative on June 5.
I hear a lot about Republican and Democrats on this blog, but thousands of us prevented from voting in District 24 are NPAs (no party affiliation) who voted in the general election last year. The newspaper doesn’t call us when they do a political story, but we normally have a big say in who wins general elections around here because research shows registration as independent is the biggest predictor of voter pursuadability and, despite all the rhetoric about an emerged Republican majority, Republicans account for fewer than half the voters in Marion County regardless of whether you measure that by registration or who actually votes.
Spare me all the stuff about whether the Democrats have a franchise. This sort of argument was heard and rejected in 1998. The whole point of the amendment was to increase voter participation in jurisdictions where the two party system is imbalanced like the situation we now have in Marion County. I find it ironic, with so much criticism of voter apathy, that we have people sitting around cooking up schemes to keep people from voting.
No. I don’t think Stacy broke the law. I think she frustrated its intent while technically complying with it. I wouldn’t expect election authorities to rule against her if a complaint were filed. I don’t think the election laws attempt to detect write-ins whose purpose is to manipulate an election outcome, not to seek office, but we all know what the deal is on Stacy qualifying. It was done to prevent people from voting.
Stacy’s actions were foreseeable since she had done this before and the District 24 State House race was shaping up as a contest between candidates of the same party. Her actions were so foreseeable that the Star-Banner wrote an editorial about the situation before qualifying in which she was named.
Stacy’s actions were legal, but let me point out what else would have been legal. It would have been legal for Kelly, as the candidate who stood to gain the most in the short run from Stacy closing the primary, to prevail on Stacy to stand down before qualifying. It would have been legal for him to tell her that he was adamantly opposed to her closing the primary because he wanted to go to Tallahassee to do the things that he and she believe in but he could be most effective and durable as a state representative if he won a contest in which all voters in the district could vote. It would have been legal for him to tell her that closing the primary to help him would be divisive and create ill will that could come back to haunt him.
In other words, it would have been perfectly legal for Kelly to perform as a statesman and effective leader. He did not. Stacy has said he had no communication with her on this issue before she qualified. He let his golden opportunity pass him by, which tells me a lot.
I have some more thoughts on this, but I’ll stop here for now.
The thought of more dialogue about Kurt Kelly is tripping my gag reflex.
I agree with Brian Creekbaum. KK had his chance.Nancy Stacey should have been pursuaded not to enter the race as a write in. After all, as Brian pointed out, the Republican Party shut the door on independants, which of course was stupid. Independants are the power brokers of our electorial system today.
Until the Republican Party publically, on this Blog, distances themselves from Nancy Stacy, her politics of exclusion and bigotry, I will remain convinced that they condoned her actions.
The chances of KK or anybody else plugging this undemocratic loophole are slim to none.
Clayton Ellsworth
I believe Kelly should pursue a change in the law. He could really get on the People's Governor team by doing so. This would be the kind of change our Governor would support as being good for the people. Kelly should go for it.
The problem, it would take some real intestinal fortitude to do it, that is lacking in Mr. Kelly.
Brian,
You just don't get it!!! I didn't ask a single person's permission so how could Kurt or even Randy Harris have talked me out of it??? I TOLD Randy I was going to Tallahassee and did not ASK him. Randy knows best that I do not lie and that if I TOLD him I was going to do something a few days ahead of time that I meant what I said.
I say what I MEAN and MEAN what I SAY. THAT's A FACT!!!!I have my own beliefs which apparently is absent on this blog.
Regarding people liking/respecting Nancy? Well, obviously you people on this blog are totally out of touch politically because you totally lost the straw poll prediction.
MY CANDIDATES WON FIRST AND SECOND! LOL So, who again are the Republicans listening to??? Wow, you guys got 140 to write my name in....whew now that is twirling real power. That means about 5 LARGE families (your own) heard you. The VOTERS heard me though and approx 2200 people went out to the precincts not associated with Senate 3 to vote FOR Kurt and many didn't go because they KNEW he would win over me. EVERYONE but you people knew that. Ugh... The write-in process is not a "loophole" but a very skillfully designed safety net set in place by some BRILLIANT legislators to keep a County from going non partisan. If I had not done what I did to wake up the Dems they would have closed their doors and totally hijacked our Conservative process in Marion County for every election to come as they know Marion County votes Republican. That's a fact! You want another fact???
If the write-in process was NOT in place to protect the Rep and the Dem parties someone like me would simply register with the other party 6 months (or whatever the necessary time frame) before each election, forfeit our opportunity to vote in our own primaries and simply run that way to close a primary. That's a Fact. Wouldn't it just be so much easier for the Dems to stop trying to SUCK OFF OF the Republican name and get off their butts, spend their OWN money (now that's a new idea) and have their own primaries??? Want another FACT?? THEY HAVE NO CHOICE THANKS TO ACTIVISTS LIKE ME!! I can run as a write-in or a Dem?? Costs the same 54,000. Doesn't matter to me as the results would be the same.....closed primary.
Tee hee Nancy
To Mr. Ellsworth,
I forgot to address you.....I admit I would probably have to take medicine to stop the vomiting if I had to go down and register as a Dem...the party of "fruits and nuts" but I'm a pretty strong chick in every way. LOL Tee hee
nancy
You might as well be a DEM Mrs. Tee-Hee.
In your own words "..cost the same $54,000. Doesnt matter to me."
It just taxpayer money right?
NPA (No party Affiliation) (No personal Accountability) "It is never our fault it is the Dem’s or the Rep's fault. "Let me vote for whom ever and when ever and if I can't have a vote I will stomp my feet and cry foul."
Hey Creekbaum, Why don't you run as an independent? or group all your like minded souls together and run someone.
You "disenfranchised" yourself when you registered as “non-franchised.” Blame the Dems for not providing your free ride into an election. No matter what, you would still complain because the candidate you really wanted did not make it through the primary to the general. What next? “NPA’s should be able to vote in any party primary because, well because, hmmm, well because we want to”
Don't blame the R"s or "D"'s for protecting their franchise. For all the politically homeless pick a side and work hard to make it better. Or start a new franchise Or, Continue to sit on the sidelines and bellyache!
Nancy and the law of this State of Florida did not take your vote away. You did when you registered NPA!
To Anony. 3:55 & Nancy - You hit the nail on the head. They didn't put their money where their mouth's were. Those few who wrote in ridiculous names on the ballot, does nothing but show that you do not take your voting rights seriously. Those same people took part in costing the taxpayer's money so don't blame it all on Nancy. Nancy's move was indeed a cleaver one and a smart move for the Republican party.
The same smart move the Democrats do in South Florida.
3:55 PM
The politically homeless do have a franchise. Watch us influence more and more of the general elections. That's why politicians suck up to us with tone downed messages (from the left and right) during the general elections. I'm not worried about the primaries. As more people get frustrated with partisan politics, you will see a trend to others joining the NPA movement. With the big divisions between the Repugnants and Demdumbs, NPA will start to decide many more elections. So shoot at us all you want, Rs & Ds, you will be coming us to break the ties in many elections.
NPA and proud of it!
Nancy my dear : Iam repulsed by the endless mindless discussion of Kurt Kelly. The election is over. Let me repeat the election is over.
Your comment that democrats are "fruits and nuts" is soooooooooold old, soooooooooooovery very very old old old. Shows your age, your bigoted , but CHRISTION OF COURSE,beliefs. Like Ann Coulter you have no shame.
Lets get on with other issues. There is no shortage of them.
Clayton Ellsworth
Clayton Dear,
I LOVE it....you just made my point.
On June 28th YOU comment about Kurt Kelly and on June 28th I respond.
THEN, typical of a liberal you come back and ask why not drop the Kelly discussions? LOL!!! You are a perfect example of why I had to do what I did....you liberals expect more of others than you do yourselves. You think it is okay for you to bla bla today about a topic but when others bla bla about the same topic ON THE SAME DAY they are wrong???? Oh thank you......you have made my point about fruits and nuts.
nancy
Gun Nutt says...
I think as long as people get their information from people who have bigger mouths than brains, like "The View" and Oprah, we will never get the best leaders. By the way, those gigantic mouths are used not only for talking but for eating as well.
Clayton my dear,
If I lived to be 150 years old I could never learn so much as the
brilliant Ann Coulter! She is the Queen and only in my most WONDERFUL dreams could I even come near being like her! She is a one and only but thank you anyway for the compliment that I am like her. I think she would not agree with you and be insulted that anyone could even compete with her genuine, outstanding, envied and HONEST personality. I would give my right arm to meet her though! If you hear she is in Florida please let me know! Tee hee
Nancy
To Nancy: I was lucky enough to not only meet Ann but I have a picture to prove it. You may not like her views, but she is one spunky lady. She is not afraid to speak her mind. She was in Gainesville two years ago at a Republican gathering. She is the only women I know (besides you) that could care less what people think of her; she tells it like it is.
The problem that Nancy and some of her Republican friends have is that the Republican Party is going in a much different direction than they would like. Soon she and many others will join the homeless when they no longer fit or are accepted by the “New Republicans”. Gone are the Bush brothers, Tom Gallagher, Baxley, Harris and soon Kelly. In are those like Rudy Guliani, John McCain, Charlie Crist, Charlie Dean, Nancy Argenziano, et al.
The “Old Republicans” are in a bad situation. No one is listening to them or even gives a hoot about what they say. We have seen how the People’s Governor Charlie Crist has just shut off and is starting to eliminate the Gallagher clan who went against him. And there is more to come!
Wait until he asks the new head of the Florida Republican Party, Jim Greer, to start cleaning house in the local RECs and rid the Party of some old-line State committeemen/women under the new law Charlie signed. That law gives Greer the power without review, question or appeal to terminate anyone he wants at the local level! I can’t wait until he starts using his house cleaning powers.
The “New Political Homeless” will be those, like Nancy, who no longer fit the mold of the New Republicans. Great days are on the way for our Party. I can’t wait!!!
We may see Nancy posting much more here in the future as she enters the realm of the Politically Homeless.
You're on target. In the next few weeks our Guv will be appointing another new republican when he makes the call on the school board. My guess either Dick Hancock or Pat Gabriel. My money is on the Guv picking Pat.
Voice of Reason says.........
Pat Gabriel a new Republican? What do you mean by "new?" And Dick Handout a new Republican? You're right about that. Republicans used to be for less taxes, less government and more freedom. Lobbyists like Handout hate less taxes and smaller government because it means less money to mooch for their Associations.
VoR
Dear New Republican,
The pres nominee will be Fred Thompson if his health holds up!
I think Charlie Crist is great jumping out on taxes first thing!
Regarding the Republicans being different now?? Well, I endorsed Kurt and Damen and they came in first and second. You guys on the blog didnt get a single one right as I recall so looks like Republicans are still listening quite well to me . Tee hee.....regarding the school board....I think Dick or Pat would be great!!! Personally I didn't believe there was any hope for public education until the Supreme Court's ruling today which gives me a teensy bit of hope? The immigration vote was almost as fine!! Today was a good day in America! I honestly thing a Republicrat Party would be quite interesting where all God fearing Americans leave both parties and come together with a common goal to bring character, prayer, patriatism, integrity, honesty, THE CONSTITUTION STUDIED IN SCHOOLS all back together where they belong. That WILL probably be the party of the future because the Dems and the Republicans are self destructing in Washington.
Nancy
Dear New Republican,
The pres nominee will be Fred Thompson if his health holds up!
I think Charlie Crist is great jumping out on taxes first thing!
Regarding the Republicans being different now?? Well, I endorsed Kurt and Damen and they came in first and second. You guys on the blog didnt get a single one right as I recall so looks like Republicans are still listening quite well to me . Tee hee.....regarding the school board....I think Dick or Pat would be great!!! Personally I didn't believe there was any hope for public education until the Supreme Court's ruling today which gives me a teensy bit of hope? The immigration vote was almost as fine!! Today was a good day in America! I honestly thing a Republicrat Party would be quite interesting where all God fearing Americans leave both parties and come together with a common goal to bring character, prayer, patriatism, integrity, honesty, THE CONSTITUTION STUDIED IN SCHOOLS all back together where they belong. That WILL probably be the party of the future because the Dems and the Republicans are self destructing in Washington.
Nancy
Voice or Reason says.....
NANCY: If you want someone to get the Constitution back into the schools then you should be behind Shaw.
VoR
For the vast majority of voters who affiliate with a party, the sum of their party work consists of uttering the party name in response to a question in the supervisor of elections office. Someone lecturing on personal accountability while trying to avoid personal accountability by posting anonymously seems to believe registering to vote without affiliating with a political party equates to political inactivity. Not true in my case.
I’ve never affiliated with a political party and am confident that my volunteer work during elections for the last decade has been greater than that of 99.9 percent of the voters in Marion County registered in political parties. I’m also sure there have been candidates in both major political parties for whom I’ve done more volunteer campaign work than anyone else.
I’m always on the lookout for advertising material. If anyone wishing to trash political independents would like to attach their name to the comments and provide their party affiliation and a list of politicians they support, I’ll arrange to get that from you. A photo would be great, preferably with a politician you support. I’ll be interested to see how long it takes him/her to claim they were photoshopped into the photo with you. The public schools may not be what we’d like, but most politicians around here have enough grasp of arithmetic to know they aren’t going very far without votes from independents.
I agree that the state legislature is unlikely to take serious action to prevent people from closing primaries as Stacy has recently done in Marion County. People deriving power from an existing election structure have a natural tendency to oppose restructuring. Change scares them. This is why the 1998 open primary amendment originated with the Constitutional Revision Commission (CRC), which meets once every 20 years, not with the state legislature. It passed on the CRC by a narrow 15-14 vote and went on to be approved by voters overwhelmingly by a nearly 2 to 1 margin.
State Senator Dave Aronberg has made a number of legislative attempts to address people doing what Stacy has done here, but they never get far because there are too many state legislators immersed in partisan politics who like closed primaries. If we are going to get broader voter participation in elections by having open primaries or more offices filled via nonpartisan elections, then I believe this will happen by a constitutional amendment originating with a future constitutional review commission or the citizen initiative petition process.
Before the CRC approved what became the constitutional amendment conditionally opening primaries, CRC Commissioner Jon Mills proposed all primaries be open, but his proposal died. Mills is dean emeritus of the law school at UF and former speaker of the Florida House of Representatives.
Nineteen states currently have open primaries as Mills proposed. There are variations, but it usually means you just request whichever primary party ballot you want at the polling place. In some states, you don’t even have to publicly disclose which party ballot you’re voting. I’ll bet this would pass if put before Florida voters, especially since we have a significant number of voters who moved from states that have open primaries.
The same 1998 constitutional amendment that conditionally opened primaries also made school board races nonpartisan. Doing this with more offices is another option. Elections for the Ocala city council are nonpartisan.
Wouldn't it be ironic if, in an example of the Law of Unintended Consequences, the actions of hyper-partisan activists like Stacy around the state to close select primaries ended up galvanizing public opinion that we should open all primaries or even do away with partisan primaries altogether? Perhaps we could give the amendment a catchy name like they did Jessica’s Law and Megan’s Law. It could be called the “Stacy Amendment” and Stacy and all her in-your-face partisan public statements could become part of the campaign to pass it.
In the short run, here in Marion County, if Stacy’s recent electoral manipulation ends up backfiring next year on Kelly, who apparently didn’t lift a finger to try to stop her, I believe, despite her likely protestations to the contrary, that it will deter Stacy and others from manipulating local elections in the future by filing sham candidacies.
I’m not advocating all these options at this time. I’m still thinking about them and just thought I would throw them out for discussion.
go creekbaum. you the man.
lol nancee. new republican sed it all when he spoke of the new republicans under guv charlie and his cleaning house.
maybe someday we will get a gop ex committee locally all republicans can support and be proud of. they gotta get rid of harris, dinkins and goofball cavanaugh. how the hell did she ever get elected to represent us on the state level? oh yeah, i remember. so many got fed up with the stacy, strait, harris mentality almost all dropped out and there weren't but harris, dinkins and cavanaugh to vote. has ur husband quit too? nancee?
REC dropout,
When My husband and I left the REC several years ago the room was packed and I don't believe anyone had quit yet?? We had to quit because Rocky was elected to the Bd of Directors at the condo building we own in over on Daytona Beach...the bd meetings there were the 3rd Monday afternoon of each month just as the REC meetings are. So, couldn't be in 2 places at once. Seems like AFTER we left the REC many left also much to our surprise. The REC meetings are fairly slack these days as I have only been to one or 2 Republican meetings in several years because of the conflicting schedule we have. Actually Cavanaugh and Dinkins didn't support my husband's ideas so you can't loop the Stacys with them. LOL tee hee
Now if ALL primaries were open then why have them??? Just have general elections?? To have an open primary followed by a general election a month later seems insanely expensive?
The taxpayers would be paying for TWO general elections???? What purpose does that serve?? If that were the case I would lobby just to have one election, a general and be done with it. Anyway, it must not work that great if less than 40% of the states are doing it? Brian still obviously doesn't know me.....I would like for him to tell me EXACTLY how Kurt could have stopped me from doing what I was determined to do??? I desired to be nominated and I WAS so since I think everyone knows I didn't tell a single candidate or their family members or their campaign officers what I was going to do exactly where could the candidates have purchased that CRYSTAL BALL that would have enlightened them to my activities??? Ugh.....You people say stuff just to bla bla and it makes no sense whatsoever. That is why your straw poll results were totally off the wall. By the way, if Steve Shaw is about teaching the Constitution then you bet I would support him for School Board. Just for the record.....I love Randy Harris and from what he tells me his life is so much more fun now. When he gets home from work now he isn't on the phone until midnight with some paranoid person like one that writes on this blog who spends his life trying to catch someone for doing something wrong vs praising those who do things right.
Nancy
What was wrong with the straw poll results. It predicted that about 66 people would vote for Stacy. Based on the small sample from bloggers, I'd say the poll nailed the voting trend for Nancy pretty good.
I would call Crist and some of the others Real Republicans, not necessarily New Republicans. I'm glad to see the new direction for the Republican Party. Stacy and her ilk are Party misfits, and will soon be extracted from having any influence whatsoever. Go Rudy, Charlie, John, Pat, Dick, and others like you!
Nancy,
You have said many times that you had no contact with Kelly about your write-in decision.
Would you be willing to swear on a Bible that Kurt Kelly never contacted you and tried to convince you to drop your write-in campaign?
Anonym 8:03,
I think before you make very many comments about Charlie vs the Stacys you should speak with State Rep Evelyn Lynn's legislative aid to see what Charlie told her about the Stacys. LOL!! Charlie has known me for many years personally. He knows exactly what he is doing and I am behind him 100%. He didn't wait anytime before revealing his fiscal conservative beliefs with the largest property tax cut idea ever. So far....Charlie is a TEN on a scale of 1 to 10. Glad you like him but I have to admit I'm shocked??
Nancy
Anoynm 8:07
I have already offered to swear on a stack of bibles and even told the Star Banner I would take a lie detector you FOOL. It was printed in the paper!!!! Where have you been???? You can add to that ....not only did NO candidate know neither did any of their family members OR campaign officers. ugh....I see why your straw poll was so screwed up with people like you voting. Ugh...God help this country because you should have to take at least a reading test to be allowed to vote....you Anonym can't even read as this has been printed on the blog and the newspaper. This blog should not be called Politically Homeless but "Politically Retarded" Yes and I have a Tee-hee....rather laugh than cry. "That's a Fact" I know exactly how I will deal with the likes of you politically in 2008 so stay tuned!!! It is a slam dunk!
Nancy
Nancy--Good to know you love Charlie. I guy who believes in allowing felons to vote, who panders to the left lobbyists on most every issue, who probably would support gay rights for any issue they raise, who doesn't have the guts to make hard calls on being sure our education system is funded, who supported one of the biggest RINOS in history (Charlie Dean), who is in love with a turncoat on most social issues (Nancy Argenziano) and whose tax reform plan will go down to defeat. Yeh, he's a great Republican!
Why not vote for a Democrat? I'll remain one of the old Republicans, you can switch if you want. I'm surprised your social agenda has changed so much! Are you now for porn in the Library too. You can bet your boy Charlie would not support your position on "library freedoms"!
oops....I forgot to respond to the Anonym who wrote about the NEW REPUBLICANS leaving us OLD ones behind??? They were touting Jim Greer (new State Chairman) opposing the old Republicans?? Well my son was at his home last night so I wish he could have passed your comments along. LOL!! The Dist 34 Rep had a fundraiser at the Greers last night and OF COURSE a "Stacy" was invited.
Nancy
Nancy,
If Kurt Kelly told someone he called you and attempted to convince you not to run as a write-in, would he be telling a lie?
geez! When did nancy get back on this blog? Let me guess, Kurt won and he let her off her leash! Do not encourage her she is a rambling village idiot! If she only new the things both doughboy and Randy h have to say behind her back!
Nancy-
Thanks for slam dunking 8:07. People like this have created a lie and they have TRIED to get others to believe it.
Kurt had nothing to do with trying to get you to drop out nor as they claim create some write-in controversy.
Their lies will consume them and the TRUTH will PREVAIL!
As a Christian, I thank God for godly persons who will fight for Christian principles and for what is right in the sight of God. I KNOW Kurt will do his best to be obedient to his Father.
I'm totally shocked!
Stacy supported light-in-his-loafers Crist over a true conservative Tom Gallagher.
How could she do something like that and still consider herself a conservative. I guess she has swung to the middle to accommodate the moderates just like Crist. What's the world coming to?
8:49 AM
She hasn't slam dunked anyone, she has not yet responded to the question about swearing on a bible?
This should be interesting to help determine who is the real liar, Kelly or Stacy.
Real Republicans, Old Republicans, New Republicans....
These terms are meaningless. There seems to be only one category of Republican as reflected on this blog and that is “Psychotic Republican”.
I have never seen such flip flopping since John Kerry. One minute Charlie Crist is too liberal and the next he is the greatest thing since cream cheese. The Supreme Court is horrible in the decisions it makes and now it is really going the conservative way. Charlie Dean is a RINO and now he is the man of choice. Criticize Pat Gabriel when she ran for office as being much too liberal and now she is just right for the school board. Same with money grabber Dick Hancock. Any hint of homosexuality in a candidate is to be exploited, but a Republican governor is exempt from that discussion. Tom Gallagher represented what Republican conservatism is all about, now the R conservative opportunists have kicked Tom aside and gone with good old RINO Charlie.
Several of you folks are truly laughable.
YOU WANT LAUGHABLE, I ESTIMATE MY PROPERTY TAX BILL GOING DOWN BY $65 A YEAR. THAT'S LAUGHABLE. CRIST AND HIS BUDDIES ARE A JOKE. THERE IS NO HOPE FOR ANY FURTHER REDUCTIONS. HIS GREAT PLAN WILL BE DOA IN 2008. SOME CONSERVATIVE.
Anonym 8:53
Go read IF YOU CAN my comment regarding swearing on the bible you GOOF BALL. Ugh.....you graduated from the school of reading in Public Schools of Washington DC too??? Ugh..
Just got an email from my son in Orlando and he told me Mr. Greer (Chairman of Rep Party of Fl) has a lovely home and he found him to be a very nice man last night when he was at his house. Go Charlie Crist!!! Get those taxes down!! We are just beginning!!! Regarding talking behind my back?? Well I've told those two TO THEIR FACE things when I disagreed with them. They just aren't as brave as me. LOL Tee hee
Nancy
Would you blog nuts leave Nancy Stacy alone. Don't you understand she would defend SATAN as long as he is registered as a Republican and been elected to office.
You are carrying on a useless and hopeless discussion. How about a new topic Mr. Blogmeister?
Brian, I had no idea you were so active in local politics. I now have an appreciation for your frustration. I think that we all would be frustrated if we had gone through all that you did in this last election. How you picked the person you wanted to support early on and helped them from the beginning. How you hosted all those never ending fundraisers and made all those calls to raise money and garner support for your candidate. All that time you spent putting up signs and just pitching in wherever and whenever asked. You did all this knowing full well that you will not be able to vote in the primary. Wow what a guy! Then all of a sudden there was hope, no Democrats have entered the race. You must have been giddy with excitement.
You can now clinch it for your guy. Wow! You will be able to vote, and bring all you other NPA friends down by the hundreds just to get “your guy” elected.
Then at just that critical moment as you bring you leg forward to punt that ball to win the game... Nancy pulls the ball away. So here you are on your back. ARRRRGGGGGGGG Not Again!
O’Well, there is always next season!
I wouldn't joke too much. Creekbaum's dedication over the past few year's toward working to remove Harris from office was successful. A Democrat, Barbara Fitos, is now sitting up there in place of the once mighty but now has-been Harris.
So just keep inflicting your humor on Creekbaum and who knows he may target another obnoxious Republican for removal. Anyone who thinks Nancy Stacy is opinionated and passionate on political issues ain't seen nothing compared to Creekbaum.
Go ahead, make my day, keep taking your shots at Creekbaum.
Wait a minute. You mean Charlie Crist might be queer? Could it be that the Repugnants have as many fruits and nuts as do the Demdumbs? Bet your bippy they do!
Anonym,
Wow, I have been very actively involved in many political issues for 18 years and never heard of Creekbaum until this blog? Must be known among the liberals because I have asked two more strong Republican activists and they have never heard of him? I disagree about him having a thing to do with Randy Harris being voted out.
The ONLY thing that got Randy out of office was the fact that he was perceived/allegedly at least.... as supporting a road tax and possibly he stupidly made a positive comment about it along the way since a few of his constituents were for it. Regardless, even putting it on the ballot is the single issue that killed him and NOTHING else because I know die hard conservatives that chose to just NOT VOTE which was like a vote for his opponent...... However, I know Randy's heart and don't believe for a second he was for that tax as I personally only heard him say he wanted to put it on the ballot for the people to decide. There have been some people on here say they heard different but they aren't very credible so probably just lied. Anyway, THAT RD TAX and ONLY THAT got Randy dismissed from office and nothing a "player" did. People I know that refused to vote for Randy don't know about this blog OR Creekbaum. That's a fact. Oh well I have played with you liberals here long enough, you don't speak truth and you have people on here that I wouldn't know if I was standing next to them to include Brian Creekbaum.
I'm headed to a Republican meeting
to share my newest ideas especially my SLAM DUNK one!! I have had the flu a few days so inside with the computer....my fever is gone so I'm hitting the
back room CONSERVATIVE political luncheon today. tee hee. I have much work to catch up on since getting sick so surely you guys will miss me. tee hee again.
Nancy
Nancy,
May the lord forgive you for lying.
read the paper today about "Utilities in need of costly repairs" article.
Regardless of what removed Randy from office my dear Nancy, that article sums up why it is good that he is gone. The utilities was his baby and look at the mess.
Thats a fact teehee LOL or whatever bullcrap statements you like to say
I agree.
Creekbaum is a hard worker, open minded and overall a fair person.
Dont underestimate his abilities.
VCD
know people around town who have had contacts with creekbaum, some like him, some dont. but anyone to claim they been active in politics and aint ever heard of him is a lie in nancees case particularily. she knows him and has spoken about him and randy sure knew him. nancee was one who came unglued when creekbaum mailed thousands of cards supporting terri carey and harris won only by less than a half a percent. nancee will never admit that harris simply wore out his welcome and lots of solid gop voters not only didn't vote for him but did vote against him. i voted for him and lost. one thing abt creekbaum is he puts his money where his mouth is. can't recall nancee putting much of anything in and msot caniddates dont want her help. she costs people votes
Read in a political news magazine that Ann Coulter is a lesbian and uses her attacks on the gays as a cover for her own activities with her traveling partner. She always seemed a little butch to me. What in the devil is happening to conservative morality?
Since there is no general thread here goes,
School District Grades are out.
Marion received a B. A drop of one letter grade.
In 2005-2006 Marion scored an A
for 2006-2007 Marion scored a B
Watch there will be a flurry of excuses. "They changed the measure", "It did not take into account...", "Rome was not built in a day"...
Here is what the headlines won't say;
Compared with the other School districts Marion County was tied for 20th place out of the 67 other school districts for the 2005-2006 school year.
Now Marion County is in 37th place out of 67 school districts for the 2006-2007 school year.
Just got home from a great back room politics affair, checked my email to leave for the week-end and couldn't resist seeing what the lying association had come up with next.
Okay, I SWEAR again on ANOTHER stack of bibles I have never heard of Brian Creekbaum until this blog and don't have a clue about any flyers a Terry Kerry sent out?? Now I do know Terry though indirectly just from seeing her sign waving years ago. Nancee hasn't flipped over anything Creekbaum did because until this blog 4 or 5 weeks ago I didn;t even know the name and surely don't know Terry's friends because I don't even really know her. I STILL wouldn't know Brian even today if he was sitting next to me and I doubt he would know me either? We have never been introduced and if he runs with Terri Kerry I know why. LOL Not only have we not been introduced but I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD HIS NAME!!! Now that may be hard for you dems to understand but "Thats a fact". Be back in town Sunday. Have a good safe day everyone tomorrow regardless of whether you are lib or conservative....stay safe I pray for all.
Nancy
Coulter's traveling partner is a vibrator personally autographed by Michael Moore!
The only solution to stopping write-ins from closing primaries would be a Constitutional Amendment. IMO, it would not get the 60% vote and might not even get enough signatures to get it on the ballot.
The Star Banner had an Op-Ed about the School Board appointment. It pleads the governor to select the most qualified. Shaw is, by far, the most qualified of the pack. He's more qualified than the consultants that the School Board will have to hire. Why not select Shaw and save the taxpayers the cost of consultants. Also, because he campaigned on cutting government budgets by 20%, Shaw has pledged to give 20% of his school board salary to public school teachers and homeschool efforts.
Cut Nancy some slack. Her activities have focused on the school board. Mine have not.
I see no reason to compromise my future effectiveness by giving potential adversaries an opportunity to go to school on me, so I won’t be publicly providing a run down of what I’ve done, much of which is not on the public record. Those on the blog with whom I’ve had certain dealings can exhale now :-)
I will say I didn’t work on any of the District 24 campaigns just concluded. Also, it’s a matter of public record that the advertising someone referred to above that took place in the 1998 Harris-Carey county commission race was paid for by an independent political committee I chaired that was registered with the supervisor of elections under Florida law. By law, it was not part of the Carey campaign and could not coordinate with the Carey campaign. The committee’s registration statement disclosed its opposition to the re-election of Harris. A majority of the committee’s funding, which was fully disclosed as required by law, came from Republicans and businesses owned by Republicans. You could fill a blog thread debating the effect of that committee’s advertising. Let’s not.
I made reference in a previous post to my level of political involvement simply to make the point that someone who chooses to not affiliate with a political party can still be politically active, not to kick off a debate about what I’ve been up to and my alleged significance or lack of it. By design, only one or two people other than me could even produce a full list of my local political activities, and I’m sure there are more interesting topics, anyway.
It's about time to close all this jabber jawing regarding this issue.
Face it, and mellow out all you angry dudes... I suggest that you take your meds.
Kelly won!!!
GO AWAY!
WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU KELLY LOVERS IN ABOUT 6-9 MONTHS. WITH EVEN MORE INTENSITY, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE HIS DO NOTHING RECORD OF ONE SESSION IN THE LEGISL. TO USE. USE IT WE WILL. SEE YOU IN EARLY 2008.
Heard through the political grapevine that PWF also received some write-in votes.
PWF, is that so?
Hey ANON 1:18.
I can't stop laughing. This is worth a million giggles.
If some wrote in PWF last Tuesday, the person MUST BE insane!!!
PWF, is this true???? I hope not! If so, I need to find my barf bag.
Cranford,
Don't barf. PWF receiving votes and the other 432 write-ins are validations of how much some voters didn't want Kelly in office! With a bit more of an organized effort the write-in could have been even more embarrassing for Kelly. Imagine a new record for write-in votes and all that money Kelly spent on image building. As many said, a vote of anything less than 99.9% was a failure. Can't wait to see how many just ignored voting in the Kelly race versus Deans. You folks have a lot of work to do between now and 2008 Election Day.
Nancy Stacy,
Thanks for clarifying yesterday that Kurt Kelly did not attempt to convince you to withdraw your write-in candidacy. I apologize for not seeing your comments about this in another section of the blog. I’m not able to fathom through the thousands of postings to the blog and keep up with who said what and when. I guess you are just intellectually superior to an average guy like me.
Anyway, I now know who is telling a fib! Thanks for helping me determine that.
Dear Anonym 6:27
The only discussions I had with Kurt about my write in was at Tallahassee when I ran into him AFTER I had filed because he was up there doing his own filing. I saw Daman first and then Kurt walked in 7 minutes before deadline. Damon and I had both already filed when Kurt saw me. He said and I will quote him as best as I can remember..."I do not believe Democrats voting in the Dist 24 race would have hurt me at all because I have many Democrats who are working with my campaign"
I would swear on a stack of bibles that was the jest of what he said to me. Honestly, I was a bit surprised he believed that way because I had not been to a single campaign meeting of his so had no idea who was on his campaign? I ran into his mom and dad at Golden Coral Thurs night 2 days after the final election and she still says that to this day. Course I don't believe the results would have been the same had dems voted but Kurt sure does apparently because his mom sure told me that 2 days ago. So,had I told Kurt I was going to be a write-in I firmly believe he would have asked me not to because he is convinced he has great Democrat support and actually he even told me some of them. Many at the school system of the dems were for him and many of the teachers. "Thats a fact"
Nancy
I find it interesting that Stacy, as a longtime Kelly supporter, sees Kelly as someone whose position on this issue would be determined by his selfish interest in winning an election rather than on the application of higher principles such as realizing the intent of the 1998 open primary constitutional amendment to broaden voter participation or preserving the party prerogative to select its candidates free from interference from voters who do not share the party philosophy. Kelly’s position, we are told, would be based on the number of Democrats helping him and whether he could win an open primary. It appears that Stacy has, accidentally I’m sure, admitted she sees Kelly as quite selfish in his approach to this issue.
I appreciate this insight into my new state representative from someone who knows him better than I. I guess this means that whatever Kelly does or doesn’t do in the legislature on this issue will be based on how it effects the career of Kelly rather than on any higher principle.
GO ANDY, YOU THE MAN!!!
Beat Kelly in 2008.
Now it's going to get interesting.
Kurt Kelly, friend of the Teachers Union. He got quite a bit of support from the Teachers Union.
Read this letter to the editor from a neighbor just a few miles up the road. I voted for Kelly, but didn't realize his alliance with the teachers union. Big mistake on my part! It won't happen again.
Article published Jun 29, 2007
(Gainesville Sun)
"Unions Are Killing Education and Driving Teachers Away"
It's interesting to observe what "management" and unions have done to put the teaching profession in its current dilemma. Colleges produce enough teachers; they just don't stay in the profession. That is, they don't stay in the public school systems.
Private school systems don't seem to have the retention problems. Could it be because:
1. Parents' willingness to spend time and money on their children's education? They see to it that the children go to school prepared; with their homework, books and supplies.
2. Students know that if they become problems to the private school, they will no longer be allowed to attend? There is not "in-school suspension" program.
3. Teachers receive recognition from management?
4. Teachers and administration are not members of a union?
5. Teachers don't show hours and hours of irrelevant videos?
6. Teachers leave meaningful lesson plans for substitutes to teach?
Thomas R. Burnett,
Live Oak
Mr. Burnett,
Mr. Kelly has great teacher support...his wife is a teacher and she is NOT a member of the teachers union. One thing dem parents and US Republican parents have in common with one another is that we SMART ones understand our children have one chance at an education. ALL parents whether liberal or conservative want the best education for our children.
The teachers union is of the DEVIL in my opinion and that is where the ENTIRE FAILURE of education began!!! Kurt's mother, father and wife are all teachers so he has a deep respect for great teachers and they in turn have great respect for him. By the way. his mother is not a member of the union either and when she ran for Superintendent of Schools back in 1992 (she was a science teacher at Ft King at the time) the teachers union came after her with all guns loaded because she refused to give the UNION any credibility and had 189 people voted differently she would have won that general election. She beat Jim Yancey (current APPOINTED superintendent) twice in the primary process to become the GOP choice for the general election. Believe me, Kurt has never forgotten the union's attacks on his mother by the union operatives.
Now, Mr. Creekbaum......you are hopeless!!! For you to say that I see Kurt as "quite selfish" is a perfect example of how you liberals plant the seeds of your lies. I call you a LIAR for saying that I believed that. Kurt, Damon, Parnell and Steve all entered this race to WIN
you silly truth twister. This was an election to WIN but since you have never run for anything I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Kurt believed he could win with OR without the Democrats voting as his support among Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Dems is broad. However, I fully understand your hostility toward him as I reiterate....Kurt's goodness is such a threat to those at the opposite end of the spectrum.
Nancy Stacy
7:41 AM
I assume you talking about Bill Thompson's article on all the "sin money" Kelly used to get elected. What a Christian hypocrite the guy is!
I never liked Dennis Baxley's politics, but give him credit for not prostituting himself to those making their money from sin. Kelly is such an opportunist and soon he will be in the eye of the tiger.
Thompson forgot to mention the support of Kelly by the nudists.
Stacy refers to Kurt Kelly’s “goodness”. Here is are examples of the groups he took money and/or support from:
Gambling lobby
State Teacher’s union
Alcohol interests
Greyhound racers
Don’t be surprised now that he used the dirty money from these groups to get elected (as a newbie—he had to take whatever he could get), he will drop them like a rock and find “cleaner” money to use in the future. Do anything to get elected and then become a moralist! As someone said, the guy is an opportunist and a hypocrite.
I’m really impressed that Nancy Stacy is a personal friend and supporter of Governor Charlie Crist; an indication there may be hope for her in accepting the viewpoints of some of us on this blog who consider ourselves “Moderates” (Democrats and Republicans).
Copy and paste the link below. It answers some important questions about our new Governor’s political philosophy. Is he a Conservative: NO----Is he a Liberal: NO.
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/07/01/
Opinion/Redefining_the_Florid.shtml
Dear Anon 10:27
Here you go again.....You say Kurt took money from nudist which is a hoot and I have to laugh. I bet you guys hate me being on here to expose you!! Perfect example of "a little truth helps you libral's lies go down". Here is the "rest of the story" as Paul H would say. Lobbyist are paid to lobby for all kinds of groups and I honestly don't think they care which one but if you look up the lobbiest that gave Kurt the money you will find he also lobbies for some nurses assocation. LOL!! Just because the Catholics play Bingo (gambling in the eyes of some) does that mean they are immoral and Godless?? I know a Catholic Father here in Ocala that God's spirit just radiates from yet the Catholic church is open for Bingo and I think possibly even serve beer during it?? Seems like my Catholic friend told me that. Correct me if I'm wrong?
Ugh....so funny requires a tee-hee
Nancy Stacy
Anonymous @ 11:20
Good article, but it didn't answer the question many of us Conservative Republicans have about the governor: is he Gay?
To Fight Crime 10:40 am,
Papa Baxley took over $2000 from the gambling lobby......
did you support him????
NOPE!!!
Nancy said…
“So, had I told Kurt I was going to be a write-in I firmly believe he would have asked me not to BECAUSE [emphasis added] he is convinced he has great Democrat support and actually he even told me some of them.”
Desperate attempts to distract with ad hominem attack can’t hide the crystal clarity in the above excerpt that tells us she believes Kelly’s position on her write-in would have been conditioned on how it affected his chances of winning an election. While her claim that Kelly opposed her write-in is a dubious one given the apparent absence of a public statement at the time from Kelly to corroborate this claim, the clear implication of her statement above is that Kelly would have taken a different position on her write-in had he not supposedly believed he had strong support among Democrats she blocked from voting with the write-in. Her own words depict Kelly as seeing the issue as all about him.
And why would Stacy think Kelly would have asked her to not close the primary even if he did think he could win regardless of whether she closed the primary? Doesn’t he agree with her supposedly principled position about only the Lion’s Club electing the leaders of the Lion’s Club and the June 5 election being about Republicans selecting their leaders free of interference from non-Republicans? If she thinks he doesn’t, then why is she supporting someone with such disregard for what she sees as protecting the integrity of her political party? Is it credible that she so strongly supports a politician she truly believes does not agree with her on this?
Brian,
I'm so glad I can call you down and you are not loose on this blog with no supervision. LOL!! You are a hoot....You are so typically liberal....you think ONLY YOU know what is best. READ MY POST....I SAY WHAT I MEAN AND MEAN WHAT I SAY AND DO NOT NEED A LIBERAL INTERPRETOR!!!
What my post REALLY says it that I did not ask permission to be a write-in candidate and will not ask THE NEXT TIME EITHER!!! I said Kurt's family does not believe my candidacy effected them in any way....they would have won regardless of what I did!!! Now go read your own mind and stop trying to read the mind of others.
You are TERRIBLE at it. Ugh..You are apparently not used to being supervised so your lies go unanswered.
tee hee
Nancy Stacy
Nancy,
How about some consistency in your comments. One minute you never heard of Brian Creekbaum, wouldn't know him if you saw him, etc. And now you have him categorized as a liberal--because he doesn't agree with you, I guess. Everyone who has an opinion different than you is a liberal.
I know Brian, and sorry to tell you he is not a liberal. No more so than our new Governor!
I voted for Kurt Kelly. However, I should have heeded the following advice:
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. --- Phineas T. Barnum"
There will be a new train at the station for 2008, and I'm jumping on.
Go Andy!
Anom 7:26
Oh you know you didn't vote for Kurt or anyone....You know under ANOM we can't even check the voter's records. You Anoms are a hoot and just say anything. Andy won't be winning a Republican primary and there WILL be a primary. LOL.....I can see to that.
Nancy
You're the hoot Nancy.
How do you know Andy will be running as a Republican? Many are waiting for an Independent candidate. Wouldn't that throw a monkey wrench into your devious plans to close another primary?
Nancy just said…
“What my post REALLY says it that I did not ask permission to be a write-in candidate and will not ask THE NEXT TIME EITHER!!! I said Kurt's family does not believe my candidacy effected them in any way....they would have won regardless of what I did!!!”
Actually, that’s not all she said in the earlier post. She also said this:
“So, had I told Kurt I was going to be a write-in I firmly believe he would have asked me not to BECAUSE [emphasis added] he is convinced he has great Democrat support and actually he even told me some of them.”
It is because her own words are such a damaging portrayal of Kelly as a guy who looks at a voting rights issue only in terms of his own political ambition that she wants to deflect attention from her own words by repeating other things she’s said and by resorting to labeling. I’m comfortable with people looking at that big fat “because” she wrote and looking at what’s on either side of it and drawing their own conclusions about what she has said about how Kelly thinks.
Andy Kesselring running as an Independent. A great idea. Many voters are ready.
Brian,
Ahhhh....didn't understand the twist you were putting to this so now "voting rights" is the new thing everyone should be worried about. LOL
What I did was perfectly LEGAL....and my concern is not the "voting rights" of people who REGISTERED with the WRONG party. LOL!! THEY need to worry about their OWN voting rights and field their OWN candidates to include YOUR NPA party! A black principal named Ms. Berry told me sitting right there at Madison Street Elem many years ago "This country went down the tubes when everyone began claiming their RIGHTS and it all started with civil rights....everyone BELIEVES they have some RIGHT and they CLAIM it
to the point our society and our schools have become dysfunctional". Whew, she was talking about people just like you! Brian, you have no "rights" and the politicians don't care about your "rights" because that is YOUR problem that you didn't field a candidate. The LAW was SKILLFULLY written so that write=in candidates have the RIGHT
to make THEIR statement on the ballot. What about my RIGHTS to
make my statement that the LAW gave me?? The LAW does not require I run a campaign but that I have the DESIRE to be NOMINATED. Candidates like Ralph Nader nominate themselves for CAUSES but when a liberal does it then you probably see no problem with it?? Believe me....Nader had no expectation of winning. LOL AHHHH you liberals don't care about anyone else's rights just like Ms Berry said. You are totally self absorbed one-sided thinkers. Be accountable for yourself once you LIBERAL! I don't believe the candidates to include Kelly would ask me to give up my RIGHTS so you could have yours! I exercised my RIGHTS so get over it and stop obsessing over yourself.
teehee
Nancy
Well it looks like Nancy Stacy is about to come unglued again now that she has found out her boy Kelly may get some Republican competition in 2008. Chill out Nancy! You won’t have to close the primary, the Democrats are going to do it for you. You may need to save yourself for some of your buddies on the county commission. Although, I’d bet the Dems will take care of things there also.
Would be great to have an Independent candidate in the picture.
The “FINAL RESULTS” for the STRAW POLL (71 participants):
Question: Should State Representative Kurt Kelly introduce a bill in the 2008 session of the legislature to amend current law and disallow the closing of a primary election by a write-in candidate?
48% YES
52% NO
Doesn’t seem to be a very high priority with our bloggers.
Actually I didn't even vote in the straw poll so yet more NOs would have been there. Everyone knows that had the Democrat lady found parking in Tallahasse that my write-in would have been a mute point. The only reason Brian didn't get to exercise his RIGHT to vote was because they didn't send a Dem up there to file who was smart enough to find a parking spot. Ugh.. So that is the Republican's problem???? Not hardly my LIBERAL friends!! Actually, those actions allow me to "rest my case" as to why I needed to do what I did.....that group isn't smart enough to vote in our GOP primary!! tee hee THATS A FACT! What about God's right to be inside our schools??? Ummm...don't hear the liberals discussing his RIGHTS especially if we are going to discuss INTENT as the INTENT of our Founding Fathers was that we could exercise our religion (any religion) whereever we were and NO WHERE in the Constitution does it suggest separation of church and state. We all know by now that was simply a letter written unattached to anything effecting the constitution. SO, I think before I will worry about Brian's voting rights he believes is my problem just because his candidate couldn't find parking when there were 50 spots right next to where I parked we need to
address GOD's rights first.
Nancy
The Straw Poll results shows how dominated this Blog is by the far right lunatics in the Republican Party!
I noticed on another thread that Bobby D is speculating that Kurt Kelly will not run for the House District # 24 spot in 2008, but will instead take on Charlie Dean in Senate District #3. Who knows, stranger things have happened!
Here is the master plan for Kelly: Defeat Dean in 2008. Let Damon Baxley take over the House seat, assuming he gets help from Daddy Dennis, who will bide his time until 2010 when Evelyn Lynn terms out in the Senate spot. Baxley would have a much easier time in a vacant Senate spot. Dennis can also lend a hand to Kelly and his crew in the campaign against C. Dean. After all, he has some very good losing experience. In 2010, Kelly runs for Governor against that RINO Charlie Crist. What better than a FAST TRACK to the top in state politics?
Could it happen folks? Don’t discount the political ambition, ego and personal goals of a guy like Kurt Kelly. When Kelly becomes Governor, maybe he will appoint Dennis to a top spot in his administration.
I’m not sure, but I think there may be a rule somewhere that says for a person to come unglued they have to first demonstrate they’re glued.
Kelly for Governor. OH MY GOD!
Brian,
Must you have a rule for everything??? Ugh....tee hee
Nancy
I know this is the tax thread but I want to make a prediction on both threads (just in case no one visits there) as to who will be appointed to the school bd because after all public schools are tax SUCKING entities. Ummmmm.....Bobby James. How about pwf do the same or anyone with a name as the anoms predictions don't count.
Nancy
d cranford-
These kelly bashers are something else. You would think that the election has not occurred or Kelly did not win. That is insane. These people have no sense of reality.
GET OVER IT- KURT WON!
This blog is worth a couple million giggles. I know-- there is a new gauge of this blog and it is the "giggle gauge". The more craziness the more giggles.
Hey- I like it- Kelly for governor- well we will settle of the house seat. He has a job to do and he's not worried with such babbling on this blog. It just a few malcontents blowing or trying to blow off steam.
Maybe you better go talk to your boy about his near term political career plans befor you run off the mouth too much.
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I spoke Monday to Jonathan Fox, who is a staff member for the Florida Senate Committee on Ethics and Elections. He was the analyst on the report from which I’ve drawn history on write-ins closing state legislative races.
As part of his research, Fox reviewed meeting tapes of the Constitutional Revision Commission (CRC) related to amendment of the Florida Constitution in 1998 to conditionally open primaries. I asked Fox if my understanding was correct that the purpose of the amendment was to increase voter participation in jurisdictions in which there is an imbalance between the major parties. He said that was a fair characterization of the CRC’s discussions.
Fox said the CRC’s discussion was all about Republicans and Democrats. As stated in his report, they did not even mention write-ins. Having listened to what the CRC was trying to accomplish, he attributes the fact that write-ins can legally close primaries to sloppy drafting of the amendment. As I have said all along, Stacy is exploiting a loophole to frustrate the intent of the amendment.
In another forum, Stacy has claimed to believe that the purpose of the amendment was only to open primaries in a situation where both parties fielded candidates but a major party candidate could not continue for legal or medical reasons. Fox said he knew of no evidence to support such a claim.
Just like in the thread on property taxes in which Stacy’s claims about libraries were demolished with facts, Stacy’s bizarre “it’s only for when a candidate drops dead” claim doesn’t hold water, either. The purpose of the amendment is just as I have been saying all along, notwithstanding the hallucinatory theories Stacy offers not supported by provable fact.
Brian,
Do you really think the legislators and "party people" are idiots?? OF COURSE the Republicans and Democrats didn't bring up write-ins because they BRILLIANTLY knew those write-ins would make the law moot!! The crazies wanting the law didn't think of it you mean....the PARTY PEOPLE were probably laughing their heads off at the KNOWN crazies who were writing up their nonsense that could ultimately cause districts to be totally nonpartisen. No way they would remind the crazies of the write-in
LAW. That LAW protects both Democrats and Republicans from being hijacked and I believe they knew the open primaries would not be challenged by write-ins UNLESS NEED BE which has been the case.
You honestly do not think that legislators wanted this law do you?? No one wants their party hijacked by people skirting the process and PURPOSELY not fielding a candidate just to hijack someone else's work!! Do you have a job??
If you don't then you wouldn't understand how frustrating it would be in Tallahassee for the Dems to be trying to get something passed that is liberal when some moderate was elected in THEIR Democratic primary because Republicans could vote and the other way around. READ MY POST!!!! Silence was GOLDEN in the debate years ago.....as NO Republican or Democrat would want to open their parties up for hijacking and they KNEW this entire debate was nothing but a dog and pony show (as is most ethical committee stuff since they got the Marion County stuff wrong regarding school board members) because they KNEW the write-in process was part of the LAW so would take care of little BRIANS along the way.
I don't have a clue what you are talking about proving the library stuff I said was wrong?? My position is that we don't need so many libraries and nothing anyone has told me makes me believe different. There are empty tables all over that downtown library which tells me the other one was quite sufficient and just needed asbestos clean up. I know TWO people who work at the library and one told me two months ago that the days are long with little to do. She also said the "crowds" in and out are those attending the meeting rooms. I wouldn't believe a single statistic the head of the library gave because bureacrats will skew any record (not lie but use a little truth works) to increase their jobs program.
The bus transportation does the same thing which is why I believe they painted their windows black....cause people like me were fussing about no passengers and they figured out how to keep us from seeing in them. Regarding the write-in law......it is a LAW.
Skillfully brilliant legislators wrote it and doubt they even remember your Fox guy That's a Fact. Brian I wouldn't believe a word you told me because I have already seen how you tried to twist my words into your own interpretations so you surely do that to others every day. That is a matter of integrity which keeps people from doing that.
Nancy
Unfortunately, much of what Ms. Stacy says is not supportable by "provable fact". She has been brought up short several times on issues and she conveniently either walks away from the discussion or attemtps to change subjects(the usage of the Library being an excellent example). Being short on facts, she resorts to categorizing everthing as "liberal" that is different than her opinion(s). If that is so, then probably 99% of the County is liberal. She is also very good at using the tact of character destruction (e.g., Bobby D and Sue Mosley) to make up for her lack of knowledge on much of what she rants about.
I have started to just skip over anything she posts. Suggest others do the same. If you have read one of her posts, then you will see no difference in any of them. She is full of rhetoric but lacking in substance!
Dear Fight Crime,
I have a better suggestion.....people should skip over you anoms because using anom is how you escape speaking truth...no accountability. By the way, Bobby and Sue attacked me first just for the record. I WILL NOT start a fight but WILL jump in one someone else starts.
THATS A FACT Obviously the people visiting this blog support me and not you anoms based upon the straw poll results regarding the write-in process which I didn't even vote in. So, time to close this thread because looks like you guys are losing ground every day on it. You can hide behind Anom and say whatever you want but the POLL RESULTS show readers are quite pleased with what I did or why would they want to leave that process in place???? BIG TEE-HEE!!!
Nancy
Dear Fight Crime again,
You writing this post makes me curious...are you saying I'm the one who said Sue broke up that City Councilman's marriage?? That alleged family rumor had not a thing to do with me.
Thats a fact
Nancy
Those with anything significant to discuss are over on the Tax Reform Thread. Kelly has won his election and my actions were not his problem. $54,000 is a very small price to pay to keep elections honest so the party for RELIGIOUS FREEDOM isn't hijacked by the anti-God folks. I am simply following the written instructions left to us Americans by our Founding Fathers who paid a much larger personal price than this relatively small price tag to keep Religious Freedom alive and well through our voting booths. Thats a Fact! Just ask a parent of a soldier killed while defending this country founded upon religious freedom and they will certainly tell you they would have rather paid many times over that $54,000. Without the 2-party system our government would not be the most powerful in the world.
Thats another fact. I know the Founding Fathers are smiling down on me and that makes me just bust with joy.....this was the least I could have done for what they did for me. I only wish I could have done more.
Nancy
Isn't it interesting? When the Blog Poll results go Stacy's way they are great and prove a point. When they don't go her way, the results are a bunch of Bull S...
A Republican hypocrite if there ever was one.
Looks like old Creekbaum has "aced' her several times on facts versus perception.
Blogmeister,
Why don't you do a poll to determine how many people really pay any attention the what N. Stacy writes or thinks?
Since she now accepts and uses the results to support her, how could she deny the results of an poll concerning her popularity!
Ummmm..you REALLY want results? I'm not going to my notes for this...but a quick tally from memory to give a general idea. No exacts mentally recorded so all approximate......
**140 people voted for me half of which were my friends who knew Kurt would win so couldn't resist voting for me. That means you clowns cooked up about as many vendetta votes as you have in your families for me.
**About a WHOPPING 280 voters mocked fun at the election process voting for monkeys etc but a certain percentage of antiamerican people will protest our American government as the law was on MY side with write-ins regardless of how Brian tries to twist it. Actually in more liberal areas the silliness is highter.
**No letters to the editor OPPOSING my move from Republicans but only liberal activists or family members with interest to protect their loved ones such as Parnells little boy.
**2200 people went to the polls to SPECIFICALLY vote FOR the Republican nominee in the precincts where there was no Senate race which by FAR outnumbered those who went to those precincts to vote against the nominee.
**This very poll right here among all of us bla blas voted on my side because obviously I have given enough FACTS to change minds over since the first polls came out here.
**The Republican nominee WON and it was one of the TWO I endorsed which was total opposite what Bobby D said on his show so looks like voters heard me and not him when I endorsed in public in the news broadcasting systems. You Brian are obviously not in line with main stream Marion County voters as they didn't hear you either.
Ummmmmm.....looks like you need a new thread guys...you are all losing. I have totally won AS USUAL on this thread so I am leaving it....you liars can just entertain one another. The blogmaster is given permission right now to alert this thread if my computer EVER opens up this topic again. BIG TEE-HEE.... TOODLES! I have conquered this thread!
Nancy
Hey Fight Crime - Nancy did nothing to ruin Bobby D's or Sue's character. They did it on their own.
You won’t find anywhere that I’ve ever cited as authority any of the “unscientific” (read inaccurate) polling done by the Star-Banner, local radio stations, or this blog. I’ve told the Star-Banner in the past I don’t think they should run theirs. These “polls” serve more as marketing devices to create affinity between the consumer and the poll sponsor than to accurately measure public sentiment.
Generally, they have problems with sample bias and question construction and the reporting always ignores the confidence interval on the result. I could go into how that applies to anyone trying to conclude from the question connected to this thread what the community thinks about what Stacy did, but I simply don’t think it’s worth my time other than to note that the poll question doesn’t even ask about that. I didn’t vote in the poll.
If you want to know more about issues with polls, talk to FORMER County Commissioner Randy Harris, the winner of the poll held here during his bid for re-election last year, or to the women candidates whose results were systematically underestimated in polling here last year.
For those who don’t know, Bobby James mentioned above ran for school superintendent in 2000 the first time Nancy Stacy did one of her sham write-in candidacies to prevent thousands of Marion County citizens from voting as our state constitution intends.
As that race was shaping up, James, who is black, and Jim Warford, who is white, were facing off in a Republican primary. It was rumored that Democrat Harrell Harrison might not follow through on plans to run so Stacy filed a write-in candidacy. Harrison actually ended up running, but if I he had not run, as Stacy obviously feared wouldn’t, then her write-in would have prevented most black voters in the county from participating in selecting the school superintendent by voting in the James-Warford race.
Stacy’s recent sham write-in prevented more than 9 out of 10 black registered voters in District 24 from voting.
It’s unfortunate that we keep having these maneuvers by a Republican activist that have the effect of blocking most black voters in Marion County from voting. It probably hurts recruitment of blacks into the Republican Party to have a high-profile Republican standing between them and the polls like this.
Randy Harris became chairman of the Republican Executive Committee of Marion County in 2000 the same year Stacy did her first sham write-in. The last time I looked at it, which was last year, the number of black registered voters in Marion County had increased by 39 percent since 2000, but the number of black registered voters identifying themselves as Republican had actually declined by 1 percent over the same period. That wasn’t just a decline in market share for the Republican Party among black voters in the county, it was a decline in the absolute number of black Republicans in a county undergoing tremendous growth.
Don't forget the influx of Hispanic voters. We are yet to see how that may further erode the republican influence in Marion County...and it will.
Based on the voter data I have from the supervisor of elections office, Stacy’s sham write-in candidacy prevented more than 7 out 10 Hispanics in District 24 from voting in the June 5 selection of their new state representative. The Democrats couldn’t have done better than Nancy Stacy if they had sent a plant into the Republican Party.
It was great to see in today's paper that Kurt Kelly is going to fix all the problems we have with the FCAT. Go Kurt, look forward to seeing this monster eliminated by you!
The low turnout for special elections, a no-runoff system, and the closure of the June 5 selection of the state representative to a majority of registered voters resulted in selection of a state representative on June 5 with the support of fewer than 3 percent of registered voters in District 24. Any state representative would stand a better chance of accomplishing goals relative to the FCAT or anything else if elected by more than such a small sliver of the electorate.
One of the reasons for going to a no-runoff primary system was to make it easier for minority candidates to win. However, I believe valid non-racist reasons exist for requiring a candidate to demonstrate majority support through a runoff. Having received only 36 percent of the vote on June 5, Kelly is basically headed to Tallahassee on an affirmative action program.
Nothing Stacy has said on the blog alters two facts: (1) if she had not run, then all registered voters in District 24 registered by the deadline for the June 5 election would have been eligible to participate in selecting their state representative on June 5 and (2) despite the obvious forseeability of her closure of the June 5 election to a majority of District 24 voters, Stacy says Kelly did not contact her to convince her to honor the voting rights of the citizens she disenfranchised through her sham write-in candidacy.
From the Orlando Sentinel:
{When Jeb Bush left office, there was a move to relax grading standards with school administrators figuring they had a sympathetic ear from our relaxed new governor, Charlie Crist.
Evidently, they do not.
"Repeatedly, we have seen that when expectations increase, Florida's students and schools respond by stepping up to the plate and improving student performance -- and therefore, student learning," he said after the recent grading period.
That doesn't sound like a guy who plans to slow the treadmill down.}
Kurt Kelly and others may have an uphill battle!
Let's keep the idiots in the Legislature, including Kurt Kelly, out of solving education problems. Leave that to the professionals who know something about it.
Professionals ? Like Who?
Kelly is a professional in the education field. He worked at the community college level, has parents who were /are in education and don't forget his wife who currently teaches in the county.
I’m a teacher of 25 years and would not consider Mr. Kelly in anyway an education professional. He has some understanding, yes; a professional, no. There are many fine educators in Tallahassee, and within our State-wide education system. who are much more intimately familiar with the problems and opportunities of educating children than Mr. Kelly. He is a second or third team player and not a player on the first team. We need more first team players in the game if we are going to have a winning education system in Florida.
Today, there are just too many people who think they have all the answers in education and really don’t have any depth of exposure or experience. Mr. Kelly’s job, as our legislator, should be to fight for more money and resources for education, not tinkering with the FCAT. Leave that to those appointed to important positions and Governing Boards in Tallahassee who are directly involved and experienced with FCAT and other measures of academic performance.
By the way, my father was a career accountant and my mom a career nurse. I don’t think that qualifies me as a professional in either area. I better understand what they did, but I would never claim being around them and their profession gave me any special authority to be considered an expert.
Just the thoughts of someone who is directly in the education trenches.
to Anony. 10:49 - Just curious, and not disagreeing with your comment, but who are these "first team players"? Are they players that are willing to start at the local level? A "professional" is someone who is paid for their expertise, however, it does not mean they have common sense in the area that they claim to be an expert in, which many times, is what we need on the local level.
Like your thoughts.
We have kids in school, my wife is a former elementary teacher and I served (unpaid) on a School Board in Pennsylvania. I would sure not consider myself an education professional, just conversant and informed on education issues
Not trying to be cute, but from what I've observed, read and heard from teachers and school staff, many parents would question the common sense of several of our current School Board members (including Mr. Kelly).
If I were about to yield to the anesthesia for the big emergency brain operation and the last thing I heard from the guy wielding the scalpel and the saw was, “You don’t have a thing to worry about, Mr. Creekbaum, my wife is a neurosurgeon and so is my mother,” I would not be calmed.
Frankly, I don't give a poop about KK fixing the FCAT. That will get done without his involvement and by those who know what in the h... they are doing.
My issue (growth managment) has just been addressed by KK's 2008 opponent Andy Kesselring who does know a thing or two about that. He's been involved in the good and the bad and seems to have a plan that makes sense. Andy's on to what the voters are really interested in seeing get fixed. Go Andy!
I notice Nancy Stacy has conveniently disappeared from the blog.
Isn't it funny how every time some of these right wing wackos have their loud opinions refuted by louder facts from others they turn tail and run for the hills.
Kurt is an educational professional understanding the issues and processes in the field of education.
Kurt Kelly is no more an educational professional than Rick Swazey!
Get off that train. He understands education...but a professional he ain't.
Judy Zanetti is the only true education professional on the School Board.
And we are so lucky to have Judy on that board she brings so much, she is the only one with good manners, She thanks the teachers for teaching and the students for learning and the janitors for cleaning! I wasn't sure after Cheryl Applequist left who would Thank everyone for doing what they get paid to do!
Kurt is an educationa professional. Check his background and you will see that he worked at CFCC for several years in the educational field. A professional he is and we are proud of him.
It's great to have a REAL professional represent us in the field of education.
9:23 PM
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!.......
But there is only one professional and we all know who that is!
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!........
I'm sorry....I forgot to say THANK YOU!
Mr. Kelly was employed at CFCC as a cheerleading instructor. His students received record scores on the Florida Cheerleading Achievement Test (FCAT). So please stop saying he's not an education professional.
Speaker of the House: "Mr. Kelly, you haven't stopped talking about education since you arrived. Do you have an educational background?"
Kelly: "No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last nite"
I'm rolling on the floor too!!!
So now you have to pick on Judy Z. the ONLY school board member with brains..not to mention a nice person who actually cares about our students, faculty and yes, those high paid janitors too. Just mean comments and totally uncalled for; could it be that you have never known anyone with class?
to Thank YOU and your other Anonys. - So what have you ever done? Tell us please, what kind of "professional" are you and what are your accomplishments to the community? Cashing your paycheck on Friday; buying your six pack, sitting in front of that expensive home theatre system you bought (which is financed to the hilt)? Yes indeed, quite an accomplishment and I THANK YOU for helping to make Ocala a better place for us all.
First, I never heard of Judy Zenatti.
But it does sound like you need some of that famous "anger management" that Kelly supporters are so famous for recommending during the campaign.
Your true upper-class elitist colors are showing by making fun of the many working class people in our community. You don't have to be a so called professional to make a contribution to our community. I know many professionals who are a drag on society.
I'd say you are pretty darn classless yourself. Typical of some of the elite, educated idiots who come on the blog; many of whom seem to be in the Kelly camp.
So maybe we should both go get some anger management together, because your uppity attitude has sure angered me.
To Anon. 11:31 - Still did not answer my question; what have you done to contribute to your communitiy? I'm not the least bit angry now or when I made my comment. And, my comment has nothing to do with how I feel about Mr. Kelly. It had to do with the mean spirited comments. By the way, I too am a "working class" individual, but people who make ignorant comments like those made by mcps emp, roflmao, Anonys. 10:16 PM, 9:41 AM & 8:09 PM. have what I call, "no class". When did manners have anything to do with being, what you call, "uppity"? Oh, and THANK YOU as you just proved my point.
Sen. David Vitter. Another example of these Godly conservative Republican politicians. I'm dubious about many of them. Yes, including Kurt Kelly. When they overly profess their Christianity, watch out!
Blogmaster---How about closing this thread? The discussion about Kelly is as interesting as watching grass grow.
I'd like to have a thread on Andy Kesselring's growth management plan. Now that is something relevant. I believe Andy is going to give Kelly a real run for his money next year. He is really becoming a leader on many of the issues the commission is handling.
Another Republican goes down!
What's happening to the morality of the Party?
"State Rep. Robert "Bob" Allen, R-Merritt Island, was arrested this afternoon for solicitation for prostitution.
Police say Allen solicited an undercover male officer inside a park restroom, offering to perform oral sex for $20."
Can we call it hypocrites?
Until today, I hadn’t seen the infamous WCJB TV-20 May 14 segment on Nancy Stacy closing the June 5 election to non-Republicans.
During the segment, Steve Shaw said, “The right reasons would be if she really felt like she was running for the race. I mean, I don't think you get into a race just to affect the outcome of the race.”
Commenting later in the segment on what Stacy did, Shaw said, “That's just pure toying with an election and none of us like that.”
Kudos to Shaw for respecting our state constitution and all the voters in District 24 and for having the cojones to call it like it is.
Shaw's a great guy. I'd like to see him run to replace Kesselring next year, if he lives in that district. He'd be a good competitor for Walton and Amsdem for that county commission spot. Maybe even better than either of them.
People have mentioned Shaw, whom I’ve never met, for several things. Of course, people can and do move to change their district residency, but as of July 9, here’s where the Supervisor of Elections has Shaw:
State House District 24 (Kurt Kelly)
State Senate District 7 (Evelyn Lynn)
Marion County Commission District 4 (Barbara Fitos)
Marion County School Board District 1 (Judi Zanetti)
Remember that old saying: "Ladies and gentlemen, Elvis has left the building".
Looks like Nancy Stacy has left the building.
Guess the heat in the kitchen got too hot for her.
maybe shell go to idaho where the other crazy, pat straight went. god bless idaho! its a wonderful place for crazies.
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